Most of this info is posted here. -help.co.uk/viewforum.php?f=20How to unlock the st585 and 780wl in particular. Plus others.And utility here -help.co.uk/utilities/JTAG/Alcatel/Files for all the speedtouch, firmware, manuals etc. -help.co.uk/mfcs-A/Alcatel/Modems/
What you need to unlock it is the CFE (bootloader) from a retail unlocked version. And that is perhaps where life is starting to get hard. There may simply not be any retail versions released in the world to get the unlocked CFE. Once you have unlocked bootloader you can then upgrade to unlocked firmware. But the CFE is the key.
It might have two fxs ports but for example the 780WL which I have unlocked a few of, still can only use a single vsp. The hardware is the restriction I think not firmware. It is apparent they did try to include it in firmware but the hardware doesn't accept. This is same as the dynalink RTA1046VW which is mighty similar board design.
The problem is, on locked firmware, the template is not in the dl directory but compiled into the firmware. They usually block access via ftp and cli to the necessary commands. Otherwise the lock would be useless. Previous BP models like 536 and 585 were locked via removal of telnet access. And inability to even save and restore the user.ini thus cutting out manual editing. But it was able to be wiped via a bootp upgrade. Now the firmware is locked rather than simply using isp.def files. In other words the firmware is not standard retail. There is no firmware available that is unlocked as per that other wonderful company BP got involved with, 2wire.
I would think that this method would also work with other locked Thomson products. The only downside is that it is still not possible to load generic firmware, and the whole process using JTAG to read/write the flash is not for the average user.
I'm also trying to find a way to get the TG782T to run generic Thomson firmware as there appear to be some other restrictions in the Bigpond firmware. Another user tried to change the DNS settings but apparently it doesn't work.
BTW it is why third party firmware for modems is practically non-existent. Check out openwrt and comments there. Most of the development has been done with AR7 chipset from Ti now sold to Infineon. People gave up on broadcom.
Basically no, but I think some of the early release ones were not as firmly locked as later ones... the problem is, if Telstra got its act together (???) it could have updated the firmware without the owners knowledge.
Ahhh!! but to do that you need to change a bit of the firmware that is stuck and locked when the modem is made. You can certainly update it to an unlocked version that is still locked... ie you would need to pay another $20 the next time a new firmware came out.
One of the major issues until NBN finally sweeps all the old copper away, is that adsl is so non-homogeneous, there is no way any one model or chipset can work for all situations. In fact even on the WAG I have tried several firmwares, the difference between 1.00.12 and 1.00.13 was 600kbps, which is significant when it syncs at 4000kbps. And it was in favour of the earlier firmware. The speedtouch was much worse than that... syncing around 3488 when the wag (also broadcom chipset) can manage 4418 and stable.
One of the major issues until NBN finally sweeps all the old copper away, is that adsl is so non-homogeneous, there is no way any one model or chipset can work for all situations. In fact even on the WAG I have tried several firmwares, the difference between 1.00.12 and 1.00.13 was 600kbps, which is significant when it syncs at 4000kbps. And it was in favour of the earlier firmware.
You've sortof dis-proved your own point there... If a difference in firmware makes a difference to sync speeds (which I have also experienced) then with a community developing software, the exposure to a much larger range of line conditions would exist and the community would then be able to develop 'algorithms' (for want of a better word; 'profiles' i guess) for many more of these conditions than a manufacturer would be able to in it's limited & simulated test environment(s).
initialy i tried unlocking voip on my 2wire 2701hgv-w from telstra but the firmware i had was already updated by telstra, so i placed some actel firmware witch was also blocked. moving along to bt firmware i bricked my 2wire.
There is a bug in the original (and still current) TG782T guide. It doesn't affect anyone who wishes to unlock the TG782T with the same firmware as described in the guide, but it may affect the TG782T if it has a different firmware version (if any updates ever come out) or anyone who wishes to apply the same method to other routers. I recently found the problem whilst involved in unlocking a couple of different routers.
The method described in the "the guide" ( see /forum-replies.cfm?t=1216321#r17 for the link) should also work for the TG784 and you'll keep your existing firmware version. Just be aware of the "bug" I mentioned a few posts above.
However, there may be an easier way if you are willing to run "demo" firmware. If you've tried to update the firmware and it doesn't work you should be able to edit a small section of the flash memory to unlock your router to accept new firmware. There is firmware at -help.co.uk/mfcs-A/Alcatel/Modems/TG784/Firmware/r8-2-2/Unknown/ , it is the only version that is available that I know of. It's a "demo" version but as far as I can tell it works just fine.
I am confused if the answer should be yes or no.. when I looked I didn't find it but Sleepdeprived says it is there.. I think there are a few different firmware levels and maybe differences in setup wizard choices..
Check the firmware and if you can see if the modem offers 4 templates, 2 BP versions and at least one bridge and an International router.. try loading your username and password in and see if you can then connect.. I have seen a comment that the very latest firmware does seem to have allowed people to use it on any ISP.. but voip is still locked of course.. this is Telstra we are talking about.. the most reactionary Telecom and ISP in the world.
HiI wonder if any of you HACKS have managed to extract the firmware from a newer version of the TG782T. Telstra have released a new firmware 8.6.F and it seems that the serial numbers with the new firmware are CP10xxxxx rather than CP09xxxxx. I would be interested to lay my mitts on the new version box or firmware.. the boot loader has changed from 1.0.2 to 1.1.1 after the firmware update, so far I have found CP1023xx have 1.0.2 still and CP1025xx have 1.1.1 so it may have some interesting changes. If not an attempt to stop us hacking them??
Anyone who can help most interested to hear. I have just messaged all the people selling new ones on ebay to see if any of those has the new firmware. But if any of you out there can help me out, then you might an unlocked TG for your trouble.
Both the TG782T modems I unlocked using sleepdeprived's method was with the 8.6.F.0 firmware. Yes the bootloader is now version 1.1.1, and I had no issues whatever unlocking them. (Except when I entered the wrong memory address when writing the unlocked rootfs..... lucky I made a backup!)
Not without jtag, no.. and I am yet to met an unlocked one.. even retail. They all have the same firmware versions.. Even getting the firmware from an unlocked one is no great help because there is no means to load it onto a different modem.. plus it is a lot of work to copy stuff out and jtag it.
It's also possible to do this without the retail version, but will take more work. The BT-HH (referred to in the link above) is also locked to a single ISP (slock.def & others in the firmware enforce that). A user called PsiDOC dumped the firmware (via JTAG in his case, now no longer required), reversed the locks, and made the revised dump available for upgrade. That is all now available within a fully-scripted format. The same is possible with the 782T. It just needs someone to do it...
It is a hacking trick.. and an extremely cunning one. By making the USB stick a part of the thomson memory setup, it copies part of the firmware across to the stick.. you are then able to hack the firmware.. by getting telnet access to the root and replacing the user.ini which allows the admin full Administrator rights.. it is amazing.
The person has full access.. and apparently there are some floating around with unlocked firmware.. but the vast majority don't work.. it is simple to find out.. go to the toolbox.. if there is no voip setup, then you can certainly plug in an ATA.. even Telstra cannot stop you doing that.. it is just the built in voip will be useless to you, until you get full access.
The USB method does nothing useful then, unless you can actually write an altered firmware back to the TG. Kick myself for being this stupid.. ! But it is interesting to see how the USB stick thing works.. I tried it on another very similar router, iinet BoB which has same chip and USB but the firmware handles the USB differently, so it doesn't allow access.
Sorry this didn't work.. my jtag has proven troublesome with it downloading a half-empty flash.. and then refusing to work again. sigh.. it is painful sometimes, and these boxes do have a range of firmware on them and it may simply not work with later or earlier ones. 2b1af7f3a8